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Old 27-08-2008, 19:04   #1 (permalink)
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Hi my pc keeps crashing, at first i thought it was the lithium battery that is attached the motherboardm as the time and date were resetting to defalt upon turning my pc on each time.


But that is not the case as i just got the blue screen again, and the pc restarts.

Also when i turn my pc on for the first time i have to press f1 to continue because a bios check or something and defaults restored.

For those thatuse hijack this this is my log file.

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.0
Scan saved at 19:03:40, on 27/08/2008
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16705)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Gateway\EzTune\dtsslsrv.exe
C:\Program Files\Gateway\EzTune\dtsrvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Command Software\dvpapi.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\WinPortrait\wpctrl.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Sony Ericsson\Sony Ericsson PC Suite\SEPCSuite.exe
C:\Program Files\Gateway\EzTune\dthtml.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSTE08.exe
C:\Program Files\WinPortrait\floater.exe
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\usnsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\Downloads\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = iGoogle
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = MSN.com
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\ssv.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATICCC] "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe" runtime -Delay
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\Lib\NeroCheck.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HP Software Update] C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PivotSoftware] "C:\Program Files\WinPortrait\wpctrl.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Sony Ericsson PC Suite] "C:\Program Files\Sony Ericsson\Sony Ericsson PC Suite\SEPCSuite.exe" /systray /nologon
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk = C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe
O4 - Global Startup: EzTune.lnk = C:\Program Files\Gateway\EzTune\dthtml.exe
O4 - Global Startup: HP Digital Imaging Monitor.lnk = C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\Office12\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {0CCA191D-13A6-4E29-B746-314DEE697D83} (Facebook Photo Uploader 5) - http://upload.facebook.com/controls/...oUploader5.cab
O16 - DPF: {20A60F0D-9AFA-4515-A0FD-83BD84642501} (Checkers Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary...r.cab56986.cab
O16 - DPF: {5C051655-FCD5-4969-9182-770EA5AA5565} (Solitaire Showdown Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary...n.cab56986.cab
O16 - DPF: {5D6F45B3-9043-443D-A792-115447494D24} (UnoCtrl Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/EN-GB/.../GAME_UNO1.cab
O16 - DPF: {B8BE5E93-A60C-4D26-A2DC-220313175592} (MSN Games - Installer) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary...o.cab56649.cab
O16 - DPF: {C3F79A2B-B9B4-4A66-B012-3EE46475B072} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary...t.cab56907.cab
O16 - DPF: {F5A7706B-B9C0-4C89-A715-7A0C6B05DD48} (Minesweeper Flags Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary...r.cab56986.cab
O18 - Protocol: livecall - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - C:\PROGRA~1\WI1F86~1\MESSEN~1\MSGRAP~1.DLL
O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - C:\PROGRA~1\WI1F86~1\MESSEN~1\MSGRAP~1.DLL
O23 - Service: Asset Management Daemon - Unknown - C:\Program Files\Gateway\EzTune\dtsslsrv.exe
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: Portrait Displays Display Tune Service - Unknown - C:\Program Files\Gateway\EzTune\dtsrvc.exe
O23 - Service: DvpApi - Command Software Systems, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Command Software\dvpapi.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe

tankyou for your time and any help is appreciated
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Old 27-08-2008, 19:58   #2 (permalink)
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Could you get the stop screen data?

If your computer restarts automatically then right click My Computer -> Properties -> Advanced tab -> press Startup and Recovery settings button and clear Automatically restart. Then you have to just wait and write down the stop message and the hex number in it.

My main suspects are:

1) Faulty memory stick, you can try testmem86 (google) but if it's a temperature issue with mem stick that mem test won't reveal it.
2) Temperature issue with CPU or GPU, try dusting your puter's inside may help or may not.
3) Driver issue with non up-to-date drivers or windows service pack/hotfix.
4) Missing .NET 2.0 and it's service packs + hotfixes (some ATI drivers require .NET installed)

Awaiting info from your blue screens.
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Old 27-08-2008, 20:20   #3 (permalink)
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Can you post your specs?
motherboard make + model, ram, graphics?


one thing you need to check is that the board is powered properly, check that the
cable to the board exactly matches the socket it's in, the should be no socket holes
unfilled by the plug, try a different PSU if needbe,
if it happens with a new PSU, then you would need to remove the board from the case,
and check that none of the soldered joints are in contact with the bare metal,chassis, it might be an idea to cover the chassis with 2" pvc tape, if some of the joints do appear
to be big enough to make contact,
If it continues to happen, then the next suspect is a corrupt EEPROM, or micro component
controlling power in that area, the most obvious solution here would be to flash an updated
BIOS
Having done all that, and still experiencing problems, I'd bin the board and replace.

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give it a prod, works wonders with my grafix card,
although its a bit inconvenient to have to di it every hour or so...
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Firstly id do like Lippo said and turn on the STOP messages, that way when it restarts/"crashes" youll be able to see if its windows crashing or the pc itself resetting.

It could be a million things, but that would really really cut down which area to look, otherwise its pretty much speculation. That said it looks like a mobo/psu problem.
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Well it can't be windows based, if you are having to f1 every time the pc has been off,
there's a problem with the board, the new battery should be able to supply the power
to keep the CMOS data, make sure the new battery is clicked in properly,
it should be flush all the way around it's seat
did you get the correct battery code?
one thing to try is to power down the pc, unplug the power lead, push and hold
the front power button on the pc for 10 secs, let it sit for a few minutes,
then boot up again... did you have to press f1 again?
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hi,thanks for everyones advice, before i can go ahead wih some of the suggestions

firstly i would like to say that i no longer have to press f1 and startup and my date and time seem to be normal now (dont go to default)...i havent had a blue screen yet but its early days (been on 10 mins)

how does that affect things?
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try to get the info from the blue screen of death if it does crash,
then it's most likely easily solvable.

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he changed the battery?

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he changed the battery?

Did u add a new CMOS battery? or did i just assume you did? xD
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Did u add a new CMOS battery? or did i just assume you did? xD
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first post suggests he replaced it already but was still going wrong.
maybe he took my advice and gave it a poke.

ive managed to jamb the right sized yogurt pot under my gfx card now, so i dont have to poke it so often.
I think the weight of the add on heatsink is quite a lot for the card to take, maybe it would be ok in a desktop, but mines a tower case, so the yogurt pot just holds it up a bit.
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i replaced the battery, now my time and date work fine, dont press f1 at start up but i stil get the blue screen, saying

LESS THAN_EQUL or something like that
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basicaly what that means is that a driver, wich runs at a high privilage level, is calling a function wich is in a task that is at a lower priority level.

this is bad becuase, well, it just is as it can cause al sort of problems, such as drivers hanging etc, so windows checks for this and throws a wobbly.

so it probably means a bad device driver. what usualy happens is a new apllication calls a driver in a way that it never showed up a fault before, so often the fix is to update all drivers where possible.

have you installed any new software lately ?

I did hear of some viiruses wich tried to modify the motherboard bios flash wich is scary.
it could also still be a virus casuing the BSOD, but could also be corupted file or something.
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I normally get that error from incorrect disc controller drivers and bad sound drivers,
sometimes from display drivers too, you want to download the very latest drivers
for your hardware, starting with the exact driver for your motherboard / onboard audio
followed by the latest nvidia /ATi drivers, etc, reboot after each driver install

It may be the case that a reformat is needed, due to file corruption
but only after all other avenues have been exhausted with the latest drivers.

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Old 30-08-2008, 14:15   #16 (permalink)
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As i said before, make sure you do what Lippo said, so that you can write down any files/codes listed on the bluescreen (or take a pic of it and post it up here if you can), incase there is any further info to help clarify which driver or library is causing problems.

It might also be worth going start->run->"eventvwr.msc" and seeing if anything is being thrown up in the event log, particularly the system part.

It does look like its probably a ghey driver. See what you can update, especially the chipset drivers for your motherboard.

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Old 31-08-2008, 19:01   #17 (permalink)
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what driver would i have to download? im lookig on the device maager and everything seems to be working fine. except this driver -

motherboard resources - 5.1.2600.2180 - it was disabled for some reason, does this mean anythng?
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what driver would i have to download? im lookig on the device maager and everything seems to be working fine. except this driver -

motherboard resources - 5.1.2600.2180 - it was disabled for some reason, does this mean anythng?

5.1.2600.2180 - Google Search seems to give a few hits, anything that makse sense?
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what's your motherboard make + model?
if this is happening with the last driver release for it, you need to email
their tech support,
try a complete re-install of the motherboard driver.
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