Raw foodists

[Arez]

it is basically the belief that anything and everything that is cooked is usless to our bodies...the good stuff that is in the food has been killed by the cooking process....there was a documentary about it on channel 4 on the 11th this month and can be downloaded off of 4OD for free if you would like to know more.

all they eat is organic fruit and veg, they filter their tap water and if anything cooked touches their lips they will become very ill because their bodies are not use to cooked food, it will be as bad as them takin heroin.

i just wanted to know everyones opinions on this subject where...anyone know anyone who is a raw foodist or is anyone actually a raw foodist on this forum?

i personally use to know some but they aint anymore they are fruitairians now which is a whole other story....but basically they live off just fruit. but suposidly there is a fruitarian fittness person who has done 1000 press ups in an hour and he is built like terminator but smaller build very impressive stuff...his name is richard blackman

[Detomah]

I've met a few and cooked (well prepared) food for a few too. It's a bit weird to think about to start with, but I can see the theory behind it and can see why people would want to live in a kind of natural eating lifestyle. It's not for me personally though.

It's a lot more common among dog owners than humans, but as you've said, once the body gets used to that system of eating raw unprocessed food, it's very difficult for those people/animals to then swap back on to a normal diet.

The dietician in me personally wouldn't recommend it to anyone anyway, there's far more risk of picking up germs and bacteria from raw un-processed food, due to the simple nature of the world today, right down to silly things like higher acidity and pollution levels in rain, foreign none indiginous animal/plant species in almost every country, chemicals and fertilisers which are pretty difficult to avoid unless paying a premium which most people can't maintain in the long term and various other stuff. There's also the fact that your diet is much more limited too, you can't eat certain meats raw or your gonna be seriously ill and certain plants have to be cooked to make them digestable too so that's them off the menu, not to mention the fact that there is a heck of a lot of bi-product ingredients that give food flavour that would have to be avoided.

I just don't see what it achieves personally, it's like people on this kind of diet are just trying to make a point and stand out as martyr's or something, when all they are doing really is not having a proper balanced diet and risking poor health.

[Arez]

i can understand what your saying about poor health because some raw foodists look like they are gonna fall over and die because they are so skinny, and to be perfectly honest u dont follow a diet that shows such bad health.

and this may sound even more mad but this guy richard blackman he is a fruitarian, he eats fruit and thats it.....he doesnt eat greens...or vegatables no nuts or anything like that the raw foodists eat, now what ur thinking already is he must look pretty weak and small but he looks incredible what he has achieved would be impossible if what he was doing was bad for him



now to me that is healthy there is no way he is unhealthy....on his myspace page he even talks about running in american hot weather without even breaking into a sweat.......

[Detomah]

That guy clearly knows exactly what he's doing though, unlike the average, "that sounds like a good idea, lets give it a go" type person, which lets face it is most people who try these things. Very few people actually think it through properly or bother finding ways to compensate for the stuff they take out of their diet and most people don't encorporate a strict diet as part of their actual lifestyle like him, for most people any kind of diet is because they want to achieve a certain lifestyle that they've read about, seen on TV or that peer pressure demands, i.e. be part of the body beautiful brigade or the "lets jump on this wagon for a week" brigade.

[Arez]

yeah you are perfectly right...they dont have a clue what they are doing, they see this as a diet....its not a diet its a way of life, they just think oh if i eat this healthy stuff i will instantly be healthy but it isnt true....excercise is extremely improtant aswell, and not just normal excercise but speading over 2-5 hours a day sort of thing.

and also this richard blackman is looked at not very friendly by the raw foodists because most of the food they eat he says isnt raw...so therefore technically they aint raw...which they really dont like...but as u can see if i had to choose between the raw foodists diet and his...it would have to be the one that looks like im gonna be looking like arnold from terminator in no time not a stick insect

[Mankind]

I watched it.

They were clearly nutters, one wearing 'quantum physics' pendants to divert the damaging effects of electric equipment, one wearing a battery pack on her waist to 'attract parasites and kill them', ruling their kids' diets with an iron fist, etc

Shame because some of what they say is probably true. I couldn't imagine a healthier diet than purely vegetables, with as little cooking as possible. Boring as hell but I reckon you would live a bit longer. A bit. 120+ year old Jean Calment wasn't a vegetarian, so clearly saying things like 'they somehow think they'll survive' about meat-eaters is bollox.

They took a sensible idea and extrapolated it into the realms of paranoia.

[Arez]

Originally Posted by Mankind

I watched it.

They were clearly nutters, one wearing 'quantum physics' pendants to divert the damaging effects of electric equipment, one wearing a battery pack on her waist to 'attract parasites and kill them', ruling their kids' diets with an iron fist, etc

Shame because some of what they say is probably true. I couldn't imagine a healthier diet than purely vegetables, with as little cooking as possible. Boring as hell but I reckon you would live a bit longer. A bit. 120+ year old Jean Calment wasn't a vegetarian, so clearly saying things like 'they somehow think they'll survive' about meat-eaters is bollox.

They took a sensible idea and extrapolated it into the realms of paranoia.

yeah i found a few flaws in their ideas aswell.....they tried to purifty tap water.....which takes out all the bad usless crap out of the water....but the fact is they cant take out the bad stuff without taking out all the nutrients.....which in effect doesnt work it takes everything out the water, so they are drinking water that is usless just as usless as cooked food. so there is a bit of stupidity in it aswell

and that parasite thingy funny, because the parasites they talk about are the ones specifically the ones that are on raw food...thats why they look so skinny and weak cos the parasites are eating most of the good stuff from their food....a simple garlic clove or "hot food" would kill them if taken regularly...i.e peppers or garlic gloves

and that powder they use is usless its dead like the rest of the stuff they rufuse to eat

[Harv]

I have no reason to consider this for myself and would not make my family eat this way either. There is definitely no way I could ever discipline myself to exercise as much as RB so would end up like a stick insect.

I love my beef too much to consider even vegetarianism. How can you possibly refuse a donner kebab or meat feast pizza after a night out

I do like veg with a Sunday roast or even in soups but still wouldn't give up meat for them. I feel my eating of meat stops the population of cows in the world reaching breaking point and sinking cow farmers into bankruptcy so feel justified in ordering a nice juicy T-Bone for tea

[Ixpah]

Originally Posted by Arez

...the good stuff that is in the food has been killed by the cooking process....

I'm 99.99% certain this is pure myth, but it does have a basis in fact; which is that the cooking process tends to leech a fairly large percentage of the vitamins out of the food into the water. This can be compensated for by using the liquid for making gravy, or eating broth/soup, so you consume all the liquid used in cooking.

[Arez]

Originally Posted by Ixpah

I'm 99.99% certain this is pure myth, but it does have a basis in fact; which is that the cooking process tends to leech a fairly large percentage of the vitamins out of the food into the water. This can be compensated for by using the liquid for making gravy, or eating broth/soup, so you consume all the liquid used in cooking.

when it looses all its vitamins and what not from cooking...its not that they simply disapear, they die they expire....they become usless as a source of energy. so drinking the broth of it wouldnt be bad for u but really in essance all you are doing is drinking usless vitamins that wont have the same effect on ur body as the fresh ones do

edit: its a chemical process they break down and become usless...there forwhen when we eat them our body cannot use them no matter how we ingest it

[Seth]

Originally Posted by Harv

How can you possibly refuse a donner kebab

Surprisingly easily, they're rank.