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Old 09-01-2008, 13:52   #1 (permalink)
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i get a magazine called love it! every week and this weeks there is a story in their that disgusted me! know you can get a tablet from your GP called 'RU486' this tablet allowed you to have an abortion at home! if people are complaining about how stupid the UK's abortion rate is why bring this out! it makes me sick.

Theres this one girl in there who said she collapsed on the floor and he dead baby fell onto the carpet! why would people want to do that!

was just wanting to know what other people thought about this 'DIY abortions' i can trype up the story if anyone is interested.
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Old 09-01-2008, 15:13   #2 (permalink)
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Its the new way tho isn't it, pop a pill and end of the pregnancy.

years ago it was surgically removed and to a certain extent it still is depending on how far you have gone.

I think the pop a pill method is good, saves you going into hospital and getting ill with MSRA.

Being serious tho, it is a good thing but...... its made so easy now, people don't really bother with contraception now because they think hey thats ok i have take the morning after pill now.

What they forget that every time you abort, there is a risk you may not be able to conceive and have children in the future.


As for that girl saying her dead baby just fell out... ahem stretch the truth a little to make the story juicy.

probably just a lil clot of blood that could of been the fetus if it was left to grow, she's making it sound like a full term baby.
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Old 09-01-2008, 15:19   #3 (permalink)
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Quick reply but like Paps said, it was probably a blood clot, and tbh they have to embellish the story to get people to buy them hun. Those mags are ten-a-penny and the juiciest, most outrageous story wins.
The drug they are talking about RU-486 is only used on pregnancies at 5-7 weeks so it would have been nothing like a baby.

I would never have it, I would advise my daughter never to have it. The safest way for a termination is surgically (even with mrsa risks >.<) in my opinion.
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Old 09-01-2008, 15:43   #4 (permalink)
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Quick reply but like Paps said, it was probably a blood clot, and tbh they have to embellish the story to get people to buy them hun. Those mags are ten-a-penny and the juiciest, most outrageous story wins.
The drug they are talking about RU-486 is only used on pregnancies at 5-7 weeks so it would have been nothing like a baby.

I would never have it, I would advise my daughter never to have it. The safest way for a termination is surgically (even with mrsa risks >.<) in my opinion.
ohh i dont know, when i had to have a termination (the baby was already dead) the surgeon still managed to pierce my womb
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Old 09-01-2008, 15:48   #5 (permalink)
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The safest way for a termination is surgically (even with mrsa risks >.<) in my opinion.
I agree with Sash. Having a miscarriage is classed in medical terms as an abortion or they may say the baby is aborting. Some folk may go through this painlessly and with no bother but it is still advisable to be admitted to remove anything that did not come away. It can be horrendous even at 3mths which was one of the times I miscarried I was rushed into hospital and had 4 pints of blood put into me before being taken to surgery. Taking my situation into account I wouldn't advise anyone to even try this. I had medical help and survived the trauma, alone these people who take it and suffer bad side effects would just bleed to death
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Old 09-01-2008, 18:07   #6 (permalink)
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Quick reply but like Paps said, it was probably a blood clot, and tbh they have to embellish the story to get people to buy them hun. Those mags are ten-a-penny and the juiciest, most outrageous story wins.
The drug they are talking about RU-486 is only used on pregnancies at 5-7 weeks so it would have been nothing like a baby.
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Agreed, my first Wife had a miscarriage at 8 weeks whilst at home I had help her clean up as she was so distressed , there is no way you can tell it was a baby.
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Old 09-01-2008, 19:22   #7 (permalink)
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Tbh, as long as medical professionals remain involved in the process of terminating a pregnancy I don't really care how it ends up being done. Surgery might not be convenient for some people, if drugs can do the same job and there's the same medical support available for the patient then I'm all for it. We are a society that revolves around convenience after all.
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Old 09-01-2008, 20:12   #8 (permalink)
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Tbh, as long as medical professionals remain involved in the process of terminating a pregnancy I don't really care how it ends up being done. Surgery might not be convenient for some people, if drugs can do the same job and there's the same medical support available for the patient then I'm all for it. We are a society that revolves around convenience after all.
But there wouldn't be medical support available as title says Home Abortion in other words DIY I can't see NHS sending Drs and Nurses out to someones home to sit and wait while this pill does it's job. If something does go wrong the person then has to phone an ambulance wait for said ambulance be taken to A&E more than likely have to wait so somewhere along the line they could have just bled to death pronounced DOA. It's a risky thing legal abortion or miscarriage like I said I was given 4 pints of blood b4 they would take me to surgery and was still on a drip after. My hubby had the job of cleaning up, mattress and sheets had to be taken into the garden and burnt they were beyond redemption. Mark my words the first death or near death there will be one hell of an outcry. Any young girl/woman who risks taking this is a fool IMO
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Old 09-01-2008, 20:35   #9 (permalink)
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its not a new concept its just been made to be available much further into pregnancy. The morning after pill has very similar effects and can be bought over the counter. It may not be weeks into a pregnancy but it still does the ame thing.
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Old 09-01-2008, 21:37   #10 (permalink)
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Mifepristone is it? It's been out for ages and ages, I'm sure.
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Old 09-01-2008, 22:46   #11 (permalink)
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theres much better ways of avoiding unwanted pregnancy's (albeit not 100%)
its called contraception.
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Old 09-01-2008, 23:13   #12 (permalink)
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It causes fatality in just over 1 in 100,000 people btw

Probably less than mechanical abortion.
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