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Old 27-12-2008, 12:44   #1 (permalink)
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ok saving up for a laptop, gonna do away with my desktop pc so it has to be half decent

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nooby question but when it says `duel core 2ghz` does that mean 2x 2ghz or 2x1 ghz?

looking to spend around 5-600 quid but can do more (put more overtime in )

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Old 27-12-2008, 17:08   #2 (permalink)
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Dont fall into the common trap of rating a processor in ghz, thats really only valid for comparing similar series CPUs imo. Like a dual 2ghz, means its got 2 cores borh running at 2ghz, but that doesnt make it the same as a 4ghz single core or as fast as 2 old 2ghz cpus. The technology has massively improved since 2ghz single cores and without checking benchmarks theyre probably about several times the actual speed in reality.

Having a quick look through, it looks nice, but if youre into your gaming the graphics card probably wont do (havent specifically checked it - but most intel internal gfx chips are crappy) and afaik hard/impossible to upgrade.

Laptops are wicked now, was playing with a similar spec dell yesterday, totally silent and fast on vista, uber amount of cpu power, but would be quite useless for 3d gaming. Maybe look into gaming laptops.

Remember the other thing is that if youre used to a desktop, laptops are much much less upgradeable and much harder to fix when they go wrong, in 12 months for example fixing most parts inc. labour will be more than the things worth. Its a fine balance though, you can sit with it while watching tv or take it around with you in the house or out in the car.
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Old 27-12-2008, 20:25   #3 (permalink)
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When I think of what kinda spec PC i could build for that money, it makes me cringe,
for some reason laptop specs are way behind, PC's are now running 4 x 3.2Ghz
with 6Gb ram, and very impressive graphics (ATi are in the lead at the mo in terms
of performance)
I wouldn't like to see how Vista runs on that laptop, and I'd expect to be a bit disappointed by the graphics on it, from what I've seen, a gaming grade laptop would most likely clean you out of £800-1000
otherwise it's suitable for almost anything else, and appears to be a well regarded machine.
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Old 28-12-2008, 04:58   #4 (permalink)
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cheers peeps.

really all i need for it to run is warhammer online cos thats all im playing at the mo, this is the minimum requirements for WAR so i need to be quite a bit above this.....

For Windows XP

· 2.5 GHz P4 (single core) processor or equivalent
· 1 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space

For Windows VISTA

· 2.5 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
· 2 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space

Supported Video Cards

ATI Radeon(TM) series

· 9500, 9600, 9800
· X300, X600, X700, X800, X850
· X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950
· 2400, 2600, 2900,
· 3650, 3850, 3870
· 4850, 4870

NVIDIA GeForce series

· FX 5900, FX 5950
· 6600, 6800,
· 7600, 7800, 7900, 7950
· 8400, 8500, 8600, 8800
· 9400, 9500, 9600, 9800
· GTX 260, GTX 280

Intel(R) Extreme Graphics

· GMA X4500

Laptop versions of these chipsets may work, but may run comparatively slowly. Standalone cards that are installed in vanilla PCI slots (not PCIe or PCIx or AGP), such as some GeForce FX variants, will perform poorly. Integrated chipsets such as the ATI Xpress and the NVIDIA TurboCache variants will have low settings selected, but should run satisfactorily.

Please note that attempting to play the game using video hardware that isn’t listed above may result in reduced performance, graphical issues or cause the game to not run at all.

The NVIDIA GeForce FX series is unsupported under Vista.
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Then that laptop will run like a 1 legged pig
'minimum requirements' mean the game will run, but the experience will be a bag of shit;
you will have nothing but frustration due to lag, graphical crap outs, and other delays
while the system's hardware tries to catch up with the game's demands,
what you need is the 'recommended' spec then you can guage what is reallly needed to run the game at a consumable level,
I really wouldn't buy a game like WHO and expect a laptop to run it, with it being a PC
game and all....
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lol i like that

ok the recomended is as follows....

Recommended Specifications for Warhammer Online

Windows 2000/XP/Vista
Processor 3.0Ghz Intel or 3500+ AMD processor
2GB RAM
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible computer. 100% DirectX compatible keyboard or input device. Vertex and Pixel shader 2.0 compatible hardware with 256MB of texture memory.
DirectSound compatible audio hardware
Broadband Internet Connection
16X Speed DVD-ROM
20Gigabytes Hard Drive Space

maybe i will struggle getting a lappy to play this? without shelling out a fortune

its weird cos the wife lappy will play WOW like a dream but wont even go near WAR
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WoW is pretty low on system demands to run it to a passable state, with things like pvp maps kept relatively simplistic so they dont lag even on crappy old pcs.

Like i said initially laptops are great for being compact, portable etc etc and nice for web browsing around the house even watching some movies etc. Gaming though is massively dependent on the graphics card and most laptops simply arent designed for gamers, the ones that are are very expensive.

You need to weigh up how good having your pc being portable will be, compared to reduced performance from it being a laptop. For gaming youll probably struggle without using a desk, mouse and keyboard too.

Personally i think the only fitting solution is to buy a quality gaming desktop for about the same money and then save up for a really cheap laptop that you can use to watch farmyard animals while youre in the bath. ;D
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