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So now the bullying Muslims have forced Sony to withdraw one of it's games because they find "mixing lines from the Koren with Music highly offensive"
I think it's scary that they can get away with this, the lyrics are not offensive against Muslims at all and almost everyone including alot of muslims no doubt probably wouldn't have known the lines come from the Koran.
"The words used by Mali-born Diabate translate as “Every soul shall have a taste of death” and “All that is on Earth will perish."
I find it offensive that Muslims get away with terrorising people, if this game had songs with lines taken from the Bible do you think there would have been a fuss? hell there was a violent Sony game that used Manchester Catherdral as a stage without the Church's consent.
Being bred and bullied out of existance is what i'd consider...
Religion has a lot to answer for, which ever religion we are referring to. Although i'd say really, religion is just a vessel being used as an excuse to disguise true intent and meaning by any fundamentalist and extremist human of any breed, religion, colour or whatever.
How many hidden agenda's do people have to suffer before the truth is finally revealed?
It's rediculous really, there's plenty of games out there portraiting stereotypical arab looking people as extremists and terrorists, some based even on true life events, where people can pick up a weapon and kill them and this is somehow acceptable, yet a game that mentions nothing more than a few basic words from the Koran is seen as an act of war... Hand picked selective behaviour to suite their needs more like.
What about all the other Islamic rappers, they seem to be allowed to mix music and scripture.
Surely the fundamentalist types aren't meant to be playing computer games anyway, but apparently they get pre-release copies to vet for anything that they might find slightly irksome.
How do you 'pulp' a computer game anyway? Is it one of those bits of cardboard with all the holes cut in it from the 60s...
I know one thing that should be pulped... actually two. The S*n and the Qu'ran.
PC going mad yet again. Drives ya nuts but what ya going to do about it. They should have put a warning on it that muslim extremists may find content offensive and not allowed it to be sold in muslim based countries. Can you imagine how fast the sales would have gone. It would have been platinum 30 seconds after hitting the shelves.
Why they culled the game instead of just editing the line from the code and releasing it
Maybe it was just an excuse to bin a crap game that had been hyped
Seems like we are being manipulated by religion yet again. What happened to freedom of speech?
I find it offensive that Muslims get away with terrorising people, if this game had songs with lines taken from the Bible do you think there would have been a fuss? hell there was a violent Sony game that used Manchester Catherdral as a stage without the Church's consent.
There was a fuss about that. But it didn't stop the game being released though.
This kind of acceptance of absurd demands from people who believe in faeries should not be tolerated at all, this is only a videogame, but the principle could be applied to more important matters. Refuse to use the term 'slippery slope' but many would.
Ridiculous. Do the Muslims have some sort of department that goes looking for stuff like this?
I wonder if they have adverts in foreign papers saying "Come to the UK live like you want, do as you please and if any one says anything tell them your a Muslim and you can get away with it"
Just came to my mind if the game had some scientology crap in it they would already be in trouble in the USA, because the Church of Scientology has copyrighted their religion and to top it they don't tell what the copyrighted material is or consists of. I find Scientology more amusing than any other religion.
Really? lol didnt know you could copywrite a religioun!! And a bit silly if if people dont know what bits sounds as if they just looking to sue people.
as with a lot of self -appointed Christian spokespersons , i'm pretty sure those making the loudest noises aren't indicative of all Muslims , it's just a shame the vocal minority tar everybody with their bigoted bile
as with a lot of self -appointed Christian spokespersons , i'm pretty sure those making the loudest noises aren't indicative of all Muslims , it's just a shame the vocal minority tar everybody with their bigoted bile
The funniest thing about it is the song is written and performed by a Muslim lol and the song has been out a couple of years now.
as with a lot of self -appointed Christian spokespersons , i'm pretty sure those making the loudest noises aren't indicative of all Muslims , it's just a shame the vocal minority tar everybody with their bigoted bile
Wrong. Genuine christians openly condemn atrocities commited by other christians. Northern Ireland being the best example that comes to mind. Think back, remember the cheering in our northern cities the day after 9/11 ? I have never heard open condemnation from any Muslim group for 9 / 11, 7 / 7, Bali, Madrid, Glasgow etc. Why you ask ? You tell me
ooh I thought this was another really old thread you found but its quite recent, you must be catching up
I'm not sure I know enough Muslims to know how they would speak out etc, however one thing I do know for sure is that I don't trust the press to give an unbiased view to this (or anything else if they can help it) at least not the likes of the sun/daily mail etc, or for that matter even a view that has any hint of accuracy, even the BBC tbh.
I'm not sure what a genuine Christian is these days at least not in this country, although i do know a few in the states. anyone remember the holy crusades ?
as for the quote in the post above I really think scientists especially theoretical physicists who speak out should recognize their skills in science might not be matched by their knowledge of human behavior.
ooh I thought this was another really old thread you found but its quite recent, you must be catching up
I'm not sure I know enough Muslims to know how they would speak out etc, however one thing I do know for sure is that I don't trust the press to give an unbiased view to this (or anything else if they can help it) at least not the likes of the sun/daily mail etc, or for that matter even a view that has any hint of accuracy, even the BBC tbh.
I'm not sure what a genuine Christian is these days at least not in this country, although i do know a few in the states. anyone remember the holy crusades ?
as for the quote in the post above I really think scientists especially theoretical physicists who speak out should recognize their skills in science might not be matched by their knowledge of human behavior.
Correct. Media accuracy is always doubtful in such politically correct times. As for genuine christians, also doubtful in Britain today. Those genuine ones I've known just simply practice what they preach without fear or favour. In simple terms, genuine christians are quite willing to criticise christians for unjustified atrocities. I've yet to hear a muslim criticise a muslim for similar behaviour.
Wrong. Genuine christians openly condemn atrocities commited by other christians. Northern Ireland being the best example that comes to mind. Think back, remember the cheering in our northern cities the day after 9/11 ? I have never heard open condemnation from any Muslim group for 9 / 11, 7 / 7, Bali, Madrid, Glasgow etc. Why you ask ? You tell me
think you might have misread or misinterpreted what i meant , i'll be clearer , not all christians / muslims / hindus etc are represented by those that appoint themselves spokespersons or leaders imho ( i know a few Catholics that shudder every time the Pope opens his mouth)
& regarding your last comment , maybe you don't get the same news in your area , but on London television folks from all backgrounds were queueing up to be on "London Tonight" & "News at 10" to condemn the actions of of all of those events you list & seemed to be at pains to distance themselves from any radical factions claiming responsibility
maybe you don't get the same news in your area , but on London television folks from all backgrounds were queueing up to be on "London Tonight" & "News at 10" to condemn the actions of of all of those events you list & seemed to be at pains to distance themselves from any radical factions claiming responsibility
True, we don't get the same television as you, has anyone else ever heard a muslim condemning a muslim for an atrocity ? On a final note, who the hell has ever heard of any of the other religions commiting atrocities in Britain, apart from the IRA ? NB they were openly condemned by their own facet of christianity To include others in what is a muslim problem only muddies the waters - is that your intention ?
Firstly I've heard Muslims condemn terrorist attacks loads of times
Secondly with Christians arguing with one another of course they're going to, we have done for centuries, there are lots of different faiths under the title "Christianity"
Your attitude in this thread Bilko is part of the greater problem, you are alienating are group of people, labelling them when infact you're original point is wrong.
The Muslims are at it again
Genuine christians openly condemn atrocities commited by other christians. Northern Ireland being the best example that comes to mind. Think back, remember the cheering in our northern cities the day after 9/11 ? I have never heard open condemnation from any Muslim group for 9 / 11, 7 / 7, Bali, Madrid, Glasgow etc. Why you ask ? You tell me
To include others in what is a muslim problem only muddies the waters - is that your intention ?
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